January 2011
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“Did you know that Schroedinger actually owned a cat that was both dead and...”
– Vaughan Pratt made me laugh.
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“If you looked through these papers [Gerlich and Tscheuschner, Claes Johnson, and...”
– Andy Lacis, succintly dispelling lots of noise.
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Is the Earth Warming?
[Vaughan Pratt kindly gives me permission to reproduce and circulate this text.]
With a kitchen stove turned on and a block of ice nearby, if you asked me whether a saucepan of water on the stove was warming I’d say yes. But not if it was on the ice, where it’s obviously cooling.
But if you move it back and forth then it’s not so clear. One straightforward way would be to...
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Factual Disbelief
Here are again what Sashka considers “facts”, which interestingly MT has called “points” (let’s wonder why):
we have observed about 0.8 degree warming over last 150 years
Looks like a fact. Notice some presentational choices: 0.8 degree over 150 years, not (e.g.) 800 milidegrees over 15 decades; emphasis on end points; no theory.
that was when we started...
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Climate Change in Google Earth →
Vivid.
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Complementary Climate Science
Shub,
You’re right: tax-payers are free to get their advice from “complementary” climate-science. As long as we agree that it’s complementary to real climate science and that its main function is to solace consumers from the lack of benefit they perceive from real climate science.
There are two problems with the climate-medecine analogy. The problem with dumping CO2 into the atmosphere does...
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Talking with Paul
Eli,
I agree that your five fold way is way better than a false dichotomy leading to a false dilemma. More generally, I always find myself in agreement when you offer a finer grained way to think about problems.
What does not work is to say something like:
What Hansen advocated in 2000 is not enough now because we wasted 10 years. This is a problem with major procrastination penalties,...
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“[T]he Climategate correspondents did not use a sophisticated mathematical...”
– Steve, shaming scientists.
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“I was defending myself against preemptive strikes by realclimate.”
– Steve, wikileaking it.
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The effect of cutting CO2 emissions to zero by... →
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Me, Oui!
There certainly is a dichotomy at work. And since it’s a dichotomy, it is false. Is there a dichotomy that is not false anyway?
My point is this. WE are talking about WE, but a WE that is both indefinite and indivisible. We’re not both indefinite and indivisible, but WE is.
This creates all the problem. So there lies the solution. Simple as that.
Those who want to work for mitigation,...
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“It’s not denial. I’m just very selective about the reality I accept.”
– Calvin, showing how Selective obliviousness works.
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“Sometimes, like Eli, Willard is obscure and can’t resist amusing himself...”
– Victor
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“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
– Saul Alinsky
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“Willard has taken to calling me Doctor Doom, but I assured him that I am Victor...”
– Victor
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Willard Opens a Can of Worms →
Or so thinks The Whiteboard.
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“You [Steve] must be very sure of your position here.”
– The Unholy Quest of McIntyre
nevaudit: 101 comments marked as read on... →
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Smoky Rhetorics
Carrot eater,
Considering AMac’s reluctance to post on moderated blogs and the nature of his symmetrical (perhaps even neutral) message, I believe that his tentative shows that, contrary to what you surmise, Steve and DC are doing something that matter a lot to him. I am not always in agreement with AMac, and we shared our debating moments, but I agree with him on this one.
An...
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Chummy Chum
Speaking of chum, here are intriguing news:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/32322
Quote:
Contrary to what was stated in Dr. Ball’s article, Dr. Weaver: (1) never announced he will not participate in the next IPCC; (2) never said that the IPCC chairman should resign; (3) never called for the IPCC’s approach to science to be overhauled; and (4) did not begin withdrawing from the...
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Relying on Excerpts
[I]f I was only relying only [on] this excerpt […]
A counterfactual that merits due dilligence.
What does it test exactly?
Might we apply it to all the excerpts we are being given to read?
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“I don’t want to conform to your rules because if I do I will start to change the...”
– Rikke Pederson
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“A scientific hypothesis cannot be properly assessed solely by reference to the...”
– George Diamond and Sanjay Kaul
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Comments by neverendingaudit.tumblr.com — BackType →
Follow me there!
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Comments by neverendingaudit.tumblr.com — BackType →
Follow me there!
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“I wonder if they snickered when they wrote this.”
– Steve, wondering.
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Feynmaniann Communication
(I just noticed this reply. It did not appear in the RSS feed.)
Indeed, better communication can do wonders.
Climate bloggers can also profit from this exhortation. In my most humble opinion, they would fare better if they try to live up to Feynmanian ideals by impersonating their own very selves and leading by example, instead of bragging about it.
Examples of a climate blogger leading by...
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Feynmaniann Communication
(I just noticed this reply. It did not appear in the RSS feed.)
Indeed, better communication can do wonders.
Climate bloggers can also profit from this exhortation. In my most humble opinion, they would fare better if they try to live up to Feynmanian ideals by impersonating their own very selves and leading by example, instead of bragging about it.
Examples of a climate blogger leading by...
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“He just made it easier to do.”
– Moshpit, intimating that it’s not personal.
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Model and Model
[I] agree completely with Steve’s basic sentiment, namely that the modeling results have no truth value. In modal logic we would say they express possibility, not (physical) necessity, or even probability.
It would be interesting to know in which modal logic we do not have truth values. Modalities qualify the truth of a judgment, they do not eliminate truth:
...
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Model and Model
[I] agree completely with Steve’s basic sentiment, namely that the modeling results have no truth value. In modal logic we would say they express possibility, not (physical) necessity, or even probability.
It would be interesting to know in which modal logic we do not have truth values. Modalities qualify the truth of a judgment, they do not eliminate truth:
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INTEGRITY ™
Focus on the lesser sentence. Interpret that sentence litterally. Do the touch-down dance.
SEO. Branding. Must be Moshes’s book. Can’t be anything else.
Can’t be INTEGRITY ™.
So I’m wrong. That’s the memo. Hence it’s the lead:
Wrong again.
Not only wrong. But again. About the most important thing that is said, no doubt about that.
That’s dialoguing.
A real PR lesson.
Politics of...
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“[T]he green menace”
– David Wojick
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“[T]he green menace”
– David Wojick
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I not I
I would avoid distinguishing between the discussion of climate scientists and the discussion of climate science if I wanted to make it sound shabby and non-credible without being able to actually demonstrating it, by using maths for instance.
So of course I would prefer to keep my constructive import to keep mind framing over and over again with things like “the science is shabby and...
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I not I
I would avoid distinguishing between the discussion of climate scientists and the discussion of climate science if I wanted to make it sound shabby and non-credible without being able to actually demonstrating it, by using maths for instance.
So of course I would prefer to keep my constructive import to keep mind framing over and over again with things like “the science is shabby and...
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The Denialists' Deck of Cards →
Learn the rules.
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Crisp and Universal
Oystein,
I am truly sorry if I can’t type your name right. I do hope you will still read the following.
This short comment is to remind you that Chris Colose was not talking about “the best”, but “one of the best.” According to Brandon Shollenberger, this changes everything. It even changes what “the real issue” is.
Brandon Shollenberger might not be bothered to address your most pointed...
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Crisp and Universal
Oystein,
I am truly sorry if I can’t type your name right. I do hope you will still read the following.
This short comment is to remind you that Chris Colose was not talking about “the best”, but “one of the best.” According to Brandon Shollenberger, this changes everything. It even changes what “the real issue” is.
Brandon Shollenberger might not be bothered to address your most pointed...
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Almost
In a short comment, Chris Colose says of a piece that it provides “one of the best “forest for the woods” type perspectives on what happened”. He added that he found it “very articulate, and accurate”. Colose clearly expresses his opinion about this piece. He’s certainly not shouting his opinion as fact here.
Brandon Shollenberger replied that this piece is “complete rubbish”, clearly...
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Almost
In a short comment, Chris Colose says of a piece that it provides “one of the best “forest for the woods” type perspectives on what happened”. He added that he found it “very articulate, and accurate”. Colose clearly expresses his opinion about this piece. He’s certainly not shouting his opinion as fact here.
Brandon Shollenberger replied that this piece is “complete rubbish”, clearly...
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Hurly Burly Outrage
Brandon Schollenberger might very well be conflating fact with interpretation. Here is one of Colose’s claim:
[ClimateSight’s article offers] the best “forest for the woods” type perspectives on what happened […]
The word “best” clearly shows that Colose is expressing a judgement. The word “perspective” clearly shows that Colose considers ClimateSight’s article as an...
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Hurly Burly Outrage
\1. Brandon Schollenberger might very well be conflating fact with interpretation. Here is one of Colose’s claim:
[ClimateSight’s article offers] the best “forest for the woods” type perspectives on what happened […]
The word “best” clearly shows that Colose is expressing a judgement. The word “perspective” clearly shows that Colose considers ClimateSight’s article as an...
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“They wanted the truth as we saw it”
– Edward Wegman, knowing his role.