December 2011
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Merry Chrismas to All of You!
Carrick,
When I read how you defined “incessant” and “bashing”, I doubted for a second if it was really you who just answered me.
You’re supposed to be a dissenting scientist whom I have all the reasons in the world to respect, and now you’re playing semantic games.
This was a simple question.
And you’re playing semantics, and minimizes the scope of Nick’s judgement, which makes no sense...
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“Groundtruth”
– Steve
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Sine dicendo
Carrick,
The non sequitur is relevant insofar you believe Nick holds it.
Even if was meant sine dicendo.
So your response to Nick’s observation amounts to deflect his observation.
In a conversation, people usually agree about observations.
Sometimes, they even distinguish observations from inferences.
If you want to have a private conversation with Nick, you can reach him by email
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“You idiot. You naive, foolish, irresponsible nincompoop. There is really no...”
– Tony Blair, addressing to himself in his memoirs while reflecting on his government’s introduction of the Freedom of Information Act.
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We and You
The inquiries are pretty clear on CRUs fault in this matter. The ICO was clear. [W]e were right. [Y]ou were wrong.
The inquiries concluded that CRU was wrong.
They concluded that “We” were right on the only matter that pertains to CRU’s being wrong.
“We” have not been found right on anything more than that, so far.
The inquiries or the ICO have not...
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“The 99% message unites, rhetorically at least, every American that is not in the...”
– The Occupy movement and the climate movement | Climate Science Watch
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“Target 1: Older, less educated males; Target 2: Younger, lower income women...”
– Tactics used by the anti-climatic industry, as reported by George Monbiot.
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Coherence, Holism, and Linebacking
willard (Comment#33233) February 12th, 2010 at 7:40 pm SteveF accepts both of my propositions: 1. Certainly a scientific theory has to be internally consistent and externally consistent (coherent) with our understanding of how the world works. 2. “Criticism” of a theory is in fact usually nothing more than showing conflicts between data and expectations, and is of course not required to be...
“I look forward to the day that we have a Congress that will adopt the position...”
– Jay Inslee, Energy and Commerce hearing, july 2006.
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“Red queening”
– Eli Rabett, down the rabbit hole.
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“I just do not know why the man is not already in prison.”
– Ron Cram
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“When I got a look into the e-mail communications which Dr. Mann mistakenly...”
– Dr. Rich Maltese, illustrating Vaughan Pratt’s of the goat buster.
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I Walk Down My Street and My Courage Fails
I walk down my street and my courage fails, Has failed. It isn’t that the key in my hand
Will no longer work – the police and the other officious guardians
Of our fate will have ‘permission’ to slot in the key
And turn the key and open that garden of butterfly’s
And June days but also muddy winters and alone
London – but I am now excluded and know that,
Whatever I do, as a human being, is...
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Old Kim of Judy's
There was an Old Kim of Judys,
So blind that he couldnt his foot see;
When they said, Thats your toe,
He replied, Is it so?
That doubtful Old Kim of Judys.
Inspiration: http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/BoN/bon050.html
http://judithcurry.com/2011/12/09/science-communication/-149589
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“A friend told me that to look for evidences of dishonesty in little things, as...”
– Steve, recalling his experience investigating a business fraud in a post entitled Is Gavin Honest?.
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“Willis Eschenbach is at least as polite as McIntyre. His logic is about equal to...”
– Vaughan Pratt, uncomplimentarily.
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“Luke 6:37, chief.”
– PDA
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“My, my.”
– Steve, contemplating ze graph, auditorily zoomed.
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A Bullying Subtlety
I [Jeff Id] wonder just where I [Jeff Id] have stated that AGW is a myth?
It seems Jeff Id stated 10 myths about AGW there:
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/ten-global-warming-myths/
Ten myths about AGW does not imply that AGW is a myth, of course.
A very important subtlety, one that justifies bullying.
Source:...
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Not long ago, Roger Pielke Junior recalled one of his favorite bedtime story, the one about his “Shameful paper”. He provides some backstory and then some more:
Here is some further background on the “shameful paper,” which despite being ignored by the the IPCC, has been cited 179 times according to Google Scholar and appears to be consistent with the most recent IPCC report on the subject.
...
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On the Law of Unintended Consequence
Robinson,
I’m sorry if you believe that “ignorance” is a pejorative term. It really is the technical term that has currency in the fields under consideration now. The problem with conflating ignorance with “lack of information” is that knowledge is not the same thing as holding information. Denial, for instance, is a phenomenon whereby a person holds an information but ignores it, knowingly or...
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From Tone to Intregrity
My problem with MT is simply the utter certainty of his convictions. If this thread started with the ideas of resonance, I have to say that Michael’s militant certainties have a strange resonance with his statement on his blog that it is about ‘scientifically informed conversation’.
Indeed, this underlines a real concern. There is something in the tone of MT’s pronouncements that won’t help...
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“A speaker argued that climate scientists needed to be articulated. Presumably...”
– John Nielsen-Gammon spotting the best PowerPoint typo so far in a Communications session.
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“I think Willard gets MT here better than MT does:...”
– afeman
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“Now it is difficult to generalize, so i won’t go there. But there are some...”
– King rut, correlatedly.
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What Happened to the Tags?
It seems that the hyphenized tags do not work anymore.
I need to recreate all the tagging system.
Sigh.
Let’s thank Providence I had not relabelled all the posts from my first year.
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“Imagine yourself as a fully actualized person 100 years from now. Ask yourself...”
– grypo, showing how astronomical uncertainties in climate change impacts, economic reality, societal change and adaption, resource extraction, global politic, balanced against each other, make any economic argument that includes a number on future ‘riches’ completely invalid.
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End Permian catastrophe fueled by incendiary CO2...
This might be an eye-opener for the non-believers http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2011/11/16/science.1213454
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Carelessness with Facts is a Little Thing
Carelessness with facts is a little thing
That matters a great deal to the fraud investigator
Who believes it will reappear in big things:
http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/29/is-gavin-schmidt-honest/
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“If the same tactics were employed against control of seconhand smoke and acid...”
– John Nielsen-Gammon
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“As if ANY archaeological argument can withstand intense, sustained scrutiny!”
– Steve Lekson, underlining a trick.
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How to Argue Against Self-Interest
I suggest we return to the topic of this thread, which is not the consensus’ lack of “argument against self-interest”, the lack of good faith of the commenters, Rorschach tests that ends up making yet another thread about Rorschach theorists, and certainly not that Pachauri has been acting in a suboptimal way.
But before returning to our topic, let us note that the auditors’ way is to start...
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More Omertà?
Dave H,
Do you see that you have not acknowledged anything and that your lukewarm Gestalt therapists acknowledge everything? No, perhaps not.
Do you see then that you have not acknowledged anything that matters and that our lukewarm Gestalt therapists acknowledge everything that matter?
I see that you’re unresponsive. Very well then.
That speaks volumes. It’s louder than words.
This is...
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Three days ago, Judith Curry reported her invited talk in a session on Scientist Participation in Science Communication at the forthcoming AGU Fall Meeting. Here is her first comment:
Presumably I was invited to give this talk because of Climate Etc.
That might explain some part of the relish.
It is too soon to know if honest brokers have “detected” anything that “matters” here.
...
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“Brought to you by the redundancy department of redundancy.”
– Dave H, with a saying that goes without saying.
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“Noone goes to Judy Curry’s website anymore. It’s too crowded.”
– MikeN
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Journalistic Network Analysis
Jonathan Gilligan,
You say in #158 that JC’s influence can be answered somewhat empirically, which you estimate as inconsequential to public opinion. I’m not sure how this question can be settled by empirical resources we actually have. If we don’t have the resources to settle this question, using this criteria as a way to evaluate what “matters” creates a condition that is not possible to...
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“The IPCC language towards you [Ian Castles] sure is hysterical. What a hissy fit...”
– Steve, already on IPCC’s case back in 2005.
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“END OF STORY.”
– Steve, non-authoritarianly.
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“I’m not misrepresenting him. I’m quoting him.”
– Steve, invalidly.
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“Old theory: CO2 causes global warming. New theory: defining “the first decade of...”
– Vaughan Pratt, on the pause (?)
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“But let’s leave this topic for another day.”
– How not to discuss Occupy Wall Street
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Planet Haters
[A loaded analogy.]
Those who deny that mankind is responsible for the past half century of global warming don’t hate science, they just hate the planet. How can anyone that loves the planet defend the amount of carbon we pump into the atmosphere? That’s like the murderer that tells his wife he loves her just before he pumps her full of lead. Different position in the periodic table,...