Talk Like a Skeptik

[Here’s how lolwot raises economic concerns.]

We skeptics of Economic Alarmism don’t deny that carbon taxes impact the economy, we just question how much they impact the economy, whether the impact will be positive and negative and whether it is really worth worrying about them.

So far proponents of Economic Catastrophe have failed to provide Empirical Proof that carbon taxes will harm the economy in any substantial way. All they have is flawed economic computer models and hand-waving. We should not worry about the impact of carbon taxes until it can be proven they cause harm.

(Source: judithcurry.com)

What would persuade you?

Richard Telford, coming up with the first question one should ask a contrarian before entering a discussion.

MM the Rational Skeptic

The rational (or scientific) skeptic insists on empirical evidence (see Feynman) before accepting the validity of a hypothesis.

Let MM be a rational skeptic as defined by the above quote.

MM crosses the street.

MM sees a car converging on him.

Onlookers hypothesize that it will hit him in three seconds.

MM keeps walking, confident that it won’t hit him.

Why?

Lack of empirical evidence.

(Source: judithcurry.com)

Honoris Causa

Michael,

Thank you for your answer. I share your conservatism in the usage of “scepticism”. My interest for the moment is the usage of the term “skeptic” in Groundskeeper’s political hit job.

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Dressing up Alinsky’s Tactics as Science

harrywr2,

Thank you for your #578, which brings many issues worth paying due diligence.

Sometimes, Steve sounds like he’s agnostic. That’s what I like about him, for I share this attitude. I don’t believe I need to have an opinion about the climate, and if I had one, I know what its worth would be. The only related belief I’m willing to fight would be my belief in inference to the best scientific explanations.

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A string of “yes” leads to an improv show. The first “no” leads nowhere.

Bart R, manufacturing improvs.
Why climate sceptic is a misnomer. Check the small print

If I don’t know I don’t know I

If I don’t know I don’t know I

I think I know

If I don’t know I know

I think I don’t know

[Knots, Ronnie D. Laing]

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How to be Skeptikal about P

> [T]here is an infinity of ways of having doubts on the main stream views and that leaves a lot of freedom.

Yes, but let’s not forget the power of recursive definitions: Suppose that somebody, somewhere claims P. Here is how to be skeptikal about P:

/1. How do you know that P?
/2. Yes, but are you sure?
/3. Fair enough, but can we call this P settled?
/4. You say it’s settled, but how could P ever be settled in science?
/5. And do we have an engineer-level derivation that P?
/6. What would Feynman say of those who believe that P?
/7. Perhaps P, but how does that matter for the price of butter?
/8. Ok, it matters, but what if P was a good thing?
/9. And what can we do about it anyway?

There might be ways to simplify this algorithm by adding some recursion.

This could help alleviate the Procrustean beds between questions 3 and 4, and questions 4 and 5. Just try to satisfy two skeptics, one asking 3 and the other asking 4, or one asking 4 and the other 5. And this might explain why skeptiks are acting as if they were not part of the same camp. We might be lukewarm to add this other question:

/10. Of course P, but should we make sure that those who hold P ought to be squeaky clean?

This might not belong to the skeptkal audit, only to the one that raises deontological concerns. A variation is the question raison methodological concerns:

/11. Of course P, but should we make sure that those who hold P got to the result in some squeaky clean way?

Both 10 and 11 gets conflated most of the times. These are good questions. In fact, they are so good that they create a never ending audit.


If I forgot questions, I’d like to know.

On the face of it, I believe this covers much of my experience in climate blogland.

[NB. I would be inclined to add “And what about Q?”, but I don’t want to renumber everything.]

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